DFI X48 T2R + Q9300

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10 multi

[ea6gka]

10 ειναι ζαχο , 8400=9 , 8500=9.5 και 8600=10

[GeorgeVasil]

Ρε συ GV, αν με τον 8600 παει στα 540 ασχημα θα μας κατσει. Μιλαμε για 11 μουλτι.

Και δεν ψαχνω everyday τετοιο νουμερο. Για κανα bench μιλαμε...

Mε νερό θα παίξεις?

Γιατι ειναι λιγο δυσκολο να παιξει τοσο με νερο..λολ..

[GeorgeVasil]

Zαχο ενας οδηγος που θα σε βοηθησει αρκετα..

I found a way to do 500FSB 24/7 stable on a quad on this board, I would like to share how I did it, and it may help everybody to reach higher FSB's too, if not 500 for quad.

I don't have a dualcore, so I am writing based on my quad experience.

I also believe, this method is the right way to fine tune your Maximus II Formula. Even if you are not going for 500FSB 24/7 on a quad, if you do the guide, you will find that you will be able to drop a lot of your volts. Just randonly setting values like GTL's, SKEWS, etc, are not the best way to find the sweet spot of your mother board.

At the end of this guide you will have no "auto" settings left on your bios. Everything is covered, and fine tunned.

***Doesn't matter if you are on a 65nm quad / dual or 45nm quad / dual. The way to fine tune your motherboard will be the same. So this guide will do for everybody.

Guide for full tunning the Maximus II Formula for high FSB / MEM / CLOCK for 24/7 use

How to start?

BIOS 1901

With your bios reseted (everything on auto), enter reasonable 24/7 volts for high FSB / mem clock like the ones below:

1.xxv CPU (you know what they are)

1.30v FSB

1.55v PLL

2.00v DIMM (Respect your ram spec)

1.45v NB (This one should be 1.45v)

1.15v SB1.1 (This one you might leave at the lowest)

1.55v SB1.5 (This one you might leave at the lowest)

Now, find the highest FSB that will boot and enter windows, and run prime blend for some minutes at least.

Keep on 333 strap if possible, and set your ram to the highest possible, adjusting the Vdimm.

Enter the 1st, 2nd and 3th ram information manually, copying all the values that "auto" settings show, replacing only the Row Refresh Recycle Time to 55 DRAM Clocks.

LEAVE IT ON PL10 - MODERATE for now.

Set your multiplier to the one that will result in the closest final CPU clock you aim for 24/7 use.

Remember, this set (fsb, multiplier and ram) must be unstable, but able to run prime for about some minutes at least.

Now the fine tune begins.

PS: The guide is cumulative, so you should keep settings before starting to test others. The guide is already on the order you should fine tune the settings.

1) CPU GTL Reference 0, 1, 2 and 3

You don't need to do any calculations.

There are only a few possible CPU GTL's combinations that makes sense from 1.20vFSB to 1.44vFSB.

If you are under 1.20vFSB, then you don't need this guide, since you are performing a "junior" overclock.

Anything higher then 1.40vFSB is a NO for 45nm and higher then 1.44vFSB is NO for 65nm. So there is no way you will be out of this range from 1.20vFSB - 1.44vFSB.

The only few values that are "right" are listed below.

If you are using any CPU GTL value different then this, then, from my calculations and experience, you are doing it wrong, and don't have the optimal values for your setttings, and that is slowing your overclock potencial down.

***As you can see below, the gaps on the CPU GTL's are constant. That is why you don't need to perform any calculation! The gaps are always going to be the same, and there are only 2 gaps that makes sense! 40mV and 45mV! No mistery about CPU GTL's.

From 1.20VTT to 1.32VTT (40mV gap)

CPU GTL 0: +100mV | +90mV | +80mV | +70mV | +60mV | +50mV | +40mV | +30mV | +20mV | +10mV

CPU GTL 1: +060mV | +50mV | +40mV | +30mV | +20mV | +10mV | +00mV | -10mV | -20mV | -30mV

CPU GTL 2: +100mV | +90mV | +80mV | +70mV | +60mV | +50mV | +40mV | +30mV | +20mV | +10mV

CPU GTL 3: +060mV | +50mV | +40mV | +30mV | +20mV | +10mV | +00mV | -10mV | -20mV | -30mV

CPU GTL 0: -060mV | -50mV | -40mV | -30mV | -20mV | -10mV | +00mV

CPU GTL 1: -100mV | -90mV | -80mV | -70mV | -60mV | -50mV | -40mV

CPU GTL 2: -060mV | -50mV | -40mV | -30mV | -20mV | -10mV | +00mV

CPU GTL 3: -100mV | -90mV | -80mV | -70mV | -60mV | -50mV | -40mV

From 1.32VTT to 1.44VTT (45mV gap)

CPU GTL 0: +100mV | +90mV | +80mV | +70mV | +60mV | +50mV | +40mV | +30mV | +20mV | +10mV

CPU GTL 1: +055mV | +45mV | +35mV | +25mV | +15mV | +05mV | -05mV | -15mV | -25mV | -35mV

CPU GTL 2: +100mV | +90mV | +80mV | +70mV | +60mV | +50mV | +40mV | +30mV | +20mV | +10mV

CPU GTL 3: +055mV | +45mV | +35mV | +25mV | +15mV | +05mV | -05mV | -15mV | -25mV | -35mV

CPU GTL 0: -060mV | -50mV | -40mV | -30mV | -20mV | -10mV | +00mV

CPU GTL 1: -105mV | -95mV | -85mV | -75mV | -65mV | -55mV | -45mV

CPU GTL 2: -060mV | -50mV | -40mV | -30mV | -20mV | -10mV | +00mV

CPU GTL 3: -105mV | -95mV | -85mV | -75mV | -65mV | -55mV | -45mV

*** The CPU GTL's in green, are, from my experience, most like the candidates of the most stable CPU GTL. But feel free to try whatever you want!

*** The positive values for the CPU GTL's, are not available on the 1901 BIOS, from 5 to 5mV increments. Only 10mV to 20mV and so on. So if you need a positive CPU GTL value like "+25mV", you will have to round it to +30mV or +20mV, or better then that, leave the 5mV to the negative CPU GTL's, as they are available on the 1901 BIOS!

*** You can select on your bios, other CPU GTL's that are beyond the +100mV and -100mV showed here. Its very unlikely that those are the best CPU GTL's for you, but you can always try them too!

You should test all the possible CPU GTL's listed above, and keep of course, the most stable one.

To do this, you should try at least 2 or 3 different unstable sets of high FSB's and CPU clocks (including the one you are at now), that are about 5-10mim prime stable only.

By testing all of them, and writing the results down (how long it last before crashing on prime), you will see a patter.

That is why you need to do it with 2 or 3 sets of unstable settings, so you can really understand the patter of the results, and pic the most stable CPU GTL.

Now, you want some sets that are 5mim prime stable only, so you don't need to wait a lot before each test. Also, you need to test sets that are close to your goal FSB / CPU clock.

That is it, now you have your perfect CPU GTL.

2) NB GTL Reference

At this time, you must have your CPU GTL's defined. Keep them.

NB GTL Reference might vary from -80mV to +80mV of even more. The best way to find the optimal one, is testing them all and finding the most stable one.

For this test, you should keep the high FSB (always), and use high DDR2 clock, with PL8 and a STRONG or STRONGER clock twister. Any thing that can put some stress on the NB.

You should prime blend again, at least 2 or 3 sets of unstable settings, and write the results down, as you change your NB GTL.

You will see a patter, and you should keep the most stable one.

3) DDR2 CHA / DDR2 CHB and NB DDR2 Reference Voltages

FOR DDR2 CHA / CHB YOU SHOULD NOT GOT BEYOND -25mV - +25mV

FOR NB DDR2 REFERENCE YOU SHOULD NOT GOT BEYOND -50mV - +50mV

So there are a few values only to be tested.

Do the same test you did on Item2, and now, with these settings, you should improve them.

Let's say you got +20mV as your NB GTL on Item2, because it was the most stable one, and it could make a 10mim in prime before crashing.

Now, you repeat that same test, but with different combinations of DDR2 CHA / DDR2 CHB and NB DDR2 Reference voltages, respecting the limits.

You will keep, of course, the best combination, and if without these settings you were getting 10 mim before crashing, now with the right combination, you will improve the time.

Start testing:

+12.5

+12.5

+25

Then:

+12.5

+12.5

-25

and keep going...

4) CPU / NB SKEWS

At this point, you should have all settings from item 1, 2 and 3 done. This is a cumulative guide, so you should keep every setting before starting to test a new one.

Ok, this is VERY easy to find. SKEWS are very sensitive, so the results will appear right away, either good or bad.

YOU NEED TO TEST THESE AS A PAIR.

From my experience, I can say that only delayed skews are good, but maybe that is not true for your system. So you should try advanced too.

Start with:

CPU SKEW - NB SKEW

normal - delay 100

delay 100 - normal

delay 100 - delay 100

delay 100 - delay 200

delay 200 - delay 100

delay 200 - delay 200

and so on...

Then add larger gaps (this is good)

CPU SKEW - NB SKEW

normal - delay 200

delay 200 - normal

delay 100 - delay 300

and so on...

Since this is very sensitive, when you start to prime, some of the settings will crash right away. Others will last only a few seconds...

Only the few good combinations will last long. And it will be very easy to define the most stable one. Keep it.

5) DRAM SKEWS

This are not as much sensitive as the CPU and NB skews, but they are also easy to set.

Just repeat the Item4 test, and try to lower your PL, or raise your mem frequency, or add something that will put more stress to the ram, like a clock twister or something.

For me, only delayed values were good, but you might try advanced too.

Keep changing them, and writing the results down, and you will be able to tell the most stable set.

Start with:

normal / normal / normal / normal

Then:

-50 / -50 / -50 / -50

Then:

+50 / +50 / +50 / +50

Then:

-100 / -100 / -100 / -100

and so on...

6) DRAM Static Read Control

Leave it disabled

7) DRAM Read Training

Leave it disabled

8) MEM OC CHARGER

Leave it enabled

9) MEM Timings (1st, 2nd and 3th information)

If you want, this is the time to fine tune it. If you have 2x1GB you can set you Row Refresh Recycle Time to 40 DRAM Clocks. Set it to 50 for 2x2GB, and so one. From my experience, keeping 5-5-5-18-3-55-6-3 on the 1st information, is the best when going for high fsb and mem clocks.

10) PULLINS

Keep them disabled, they don't work on bios 1901.

11) CPU Configuration

Disable everything there.

12) Load line calibration

Enabled

13) CPU and PCI-E Spread Spectrum

Disabled

14) PCI-E Frequency

100

Ok, at this point, you have fine tunned your motherboard. No auto settings anymore.

But it is not stable yet, far from it.

Now, you will find and understand how the voltages affect your overclock.

vCPU - Helps most raw cpu speed

vFSB - Helps at high FSB

vPLL - Helps at high FSB

vDIMM - Helps high ram clocks.

vNB - Helps high fsb and high ram clock

vSB1.1 - Helps with raid or several HDDs / optical

vSB1.5 - Helps at PCI-E frequency (when higher then 100)

Now its up to you, to find the correct volts, to keep the system stable at a high FSB and MEM clock.

***At this point, there is no need to change, again, GTLs, SKEWS, etc... They are already fine tunned. Now you just need to find the correct volts, and you are done.

***You will now, only mess with the following:

- FSB / RAM clock

- Performance Level

- AI Clock Twisters

- And all the voltages (vCPU, VTT, etc)

Keep changing only this values, one at a time, or on pairs at most. Always test them and write results down so you can understand what is going on. After some tests, you will find the correct volts.

That is it.

Now you have mastered your motherboard, and can push your cpu and mem to its limit for 24/7 use.

Here are the bios settings I am using for 500FSB DDR2-1200CL5 PL8-STRONGER, on my 65nm quad.

CPU Skew: Delay 100

NB Skew: Delay 300

DRAM Skews: Delay 50

CPU GTL's: +10 -35 +10 -35

NB GTL: +30

CHA / CHB Reference: +12.5

NB DDR Reference: -25

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled

DRAM Read Training: Disabled

MEM OC CHARGER: Enabled

PULLINS: Disabled

PCI-E Frequency: 100

vPLL: 1.59275

vFSB: 1.37825

vNB: 1.45775

vSB1.5: 1.55300

vSB1.1: 1.20600

CPU Configuration: All disabled

Load line calibration: Enabled

CPU and PCI-E Spread Spectrum: Disbaled

quadcore 500FSB - 24/7

quadcore 490FSB - 24/7

ADDITIONAL INFO:

Maximus II Formula is probably the best non-core i7 board out there for 24/7 usage.

1) 1.25vNB is what is needed for a quad at 490FSB and DDR2-1178 PL8 STRONGER

2) 1.27vFSB is what is needed to clock a 65nm quad at 490FSB on this board for 24/7 use! 45nm values would be even lower!

3) vPLL, vSB1.1 and vSB1.5 can be at the lowest possible volts the board allows, even at 490FSB on a quad.

4) The board just don't heat up! It is insane that your NB, SB, PWM's are not going to heat up, even at the most extreme clock / volts! Idle to load delta's are arround: NB=5C, SB=3C and PWM=10C

Take a look at the FSB / MEM speed, and the voltages required to do so, all on a 65nm quad!

This is a 4h prime blend and 10 loops IBT on max stress.

Everything, CPU, MOBO, etc, is aircooled inside a closed case.

CPU Skew: Delay 100

NB Skew: Delay 300

DRAM Skews: Delay 50

CPU GTL's: +10 -35 +10 -35

NB GTL: +30

CHA / CHB Reference: +12.5

NB DDR Reference: -25

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled

DRAM Read Training: Disabled

MEM OC CHARGER: Enabled

PULLINS: Disabled

PCI-E Frequency: 100

vPLL: 1.50000

vFSB: 1.28550

vNB: 1.25900

vSB1.5: 1.50000

vSB1.1: 1.10000

CPU Configuration: All disabled

Load line calibration: Enabled

CPU and PCI-E Spread Spectrum: Disbaled

quadcore 494FSB - 24/7

ADDITIONAL INFO (2):

500FSB and 1:1 divider (DDR2-1000 5-5-5-18 PL10)

7h prime blend + 20 IBT loops on max stress:

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[Dem]

Την DFI για bench την πηρες??

μπααχαχαχαχαχα....ο θεος μου τη χαρισε αυτη την φορα...ετοιμος ημουν...

λοιπον περα απο την πλακα...εκτος του οτι ειναι δυσκολη..δεν ειναι για quad

για αυτο την αλλαξαν με την Plus (+ 2 phase) . Στο εξωτερικο μονο plus και πρασινες κυκλοφορουν...

για 2 πλους ειναι καλό και γρηγορο chipset (με τον δικο μου Ε6600B2 δεν ξερω...καημο το εχω να τον δω να παιζει στα 3,5 3,6 με 4GB , τον δοκιμαζουμε ? )

Mε τους περισσοτερους quad η πορτοκαλι η απλή βρισκει τοιχο στα 475 μεσο ορο...(το πολυ) φυσιολογικο ειναι... δηλαδη δεν φταις εσυ.

Εδω γιατι δεν φερνουν μια LT ή τουλαχιστον την plus δεν μπορω να καταλάβω.