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amd venice 3500+ and 3800+ preview


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Αρχική απάντηση από Seeker

Taking into account the OCZ Powerstream 600 I doubt that it is DFI's fault... :p

No, no.....

It wasn't OCZ to blame (double-checked)...

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No, no.....

It wasn't OCZ to blable (double-checked)...

I beg your pardon sir SPC, what is blable?

Excusez-moi monsieur SPC, blable est quoi?

Entschuldigung herr SPC, was ist blable?

dagalidis! wow, beautifull avatar! and the look on her face! great! :D hahaha

very nice, this is just not another babae avatar, this pic is really nice! you should use it on xs as well! :D

i will check thelab as much as possible, but i still have to write a lot on the cebit coverage etc, so if george turns up please tell him to pm me! :D

opp couldnt get the 3500+ to boot under his cascade (-90°C)...

it seems the low temp issue is still not resolved :(

they will try to lower the temp to -60°C i hope, maybe that helps...

and if not, then who knows, maybe the chips overclock almost the same on air and water than they do under phase change :D

so the venice wont be an fx55 killer, but it will def be a very sweet air/watercooling chip! and it works with -40°C and probably -50 and -60, so for single stage phase change cooling its still a great chip with the good overclocks and see3 instructions added, as well as the imrpoved memory controller :)

AMD! Chips that -need- higher temps in order to work!!

There's your slogan/selling point right there... :D

pc ice hurt his back pretty bad and it will take some time before he feels better and can post the air and water results :(

it seems the venice is already in stock in 2 german shops btw! some people already ordered one! :D

thx :D

no, very expensive atm, but should cost the same as winnies as soon as the shops have filled their warehouses, maybe they will even be cheaper :)

update! :D

2.8ghz on water stock vcore :D

asetek waterchill cooling

higher vcore almost doesnt do anything :o:(

lets hope that the other chips like vcore more than this chip...

well 2.8ghz on water isnt really bad tbh, its better than the average winchester from what i have seen as some winchesters dont even reach 2.5ghz on water :)

2.8g on water?omg......since now we are stryggling for the 2.5 with almost 1.8Volts

i believe this is great news.....

less volts=less heat=fewer needs in cooling=fewer radiator fans=a MORE silent PC:)

this is a dreamed situation for me :hehe:

so.....great news saaya.i bet all of us are impatient for your future results.

cya man:T: :hi: :T:

Αρχική απάντηση από .38-.45 [Σήμερα, στις 22:01]

how is the IMC doing?

can we see any results from memtest??

anything above 3500 plz..

edit: hipro5 is alive

well im getting 2.6ghz with 1.55v and stock cooling, so i think a venice upgrade is not worth it for me :D but yeah, for most people its a nice upgrade :)

pc ice said he compared the cpu to an fx53 at the same clockspeed, but he didnt send me any results yet :/

oppainter compared the 3500+ with his fx53 and a winchester all at 8x300 and ran a bunch of tests, the results should be available soon :)

and how do you know hipro is ok?

if the IMC still craps above 3400, then it seems that the only advantage of the new core is the lowest wattage.

i got a pm from him, about some Muskin BH5 modding.

Αρχική απάντηση από .38-.45 [Χθες, στις 23:57]

if the IMC still craps above 3400, then it seems that the only advantage of the new core is the lowest wattage.

i got a pm from him, about some Muskin BH5 modding.

the memory controller? why should it crap out at a certain cpu speed??? :confused:

it ran fine with 2 512mb sticks at 330mhz 1t if i remember correctly, and amd said that it will be able to run with 4 512mb sticks with ddr400+ with 1t as well (pc ice tried but it didnt work, system booted but the bios kept rebooting)

but it might be a bios problem or the fact that the 4 512mb sticks were from 2 different manufacturers, gskill 4800FF and corsair i think, both tccd, but maybe with slightly different timings.

i think .38.45 means the imc crapping out at 3400mb/sec unbuffered at memtest since its something I've come to notice as well.

exactly my point. i see errors when the unbuffered at memtest is over 3400mb/sec, no matter the bios or the mutli/dividers i use. with 10X270 or 10X288 (/180: mem@259), errors start appearing at memtest, at tests #5 and #8. the same is reproducable at any multi/HTT/divider. twinmoss UTT running at 2-2-4-7-15-0-2-1-1, which means that if i ease the timings, i can gain some extra MHZ, but the barrier at 3400 mb/sec in unbuffered in memtest is still here.

the same goes in windows. over 3400mb/sec, i got instabilities and random restarts.

if this is not an IMC issue, then i don't know what it is.

Αρχική απάντηση από .38-.45 [Σήμερα, στις 10:07]

exactly my point. i see errors when the unbuffered at memtest is over 3400mb/sec, no matter the bios or the mutli/dividers i use. with 10X270 or 10X288 (/180: mem@259), errors start appearing at memtest, at tests #5 and #8. the same is reproducable at any multi/HTT/divider. twinmoss UTT running at 2-2-4-7-15-0-2-1-1, which means that if i ease the timings, i can gain some extra MHZ, but the barrier at 3400 mb/sec in unbuffered in memtest is still here.

the same goes in windows. over 3400mb/sec, i got instabilities and random restarts.

if this is not an IMC issue, then i don't know what it is.

interesting, did you notice this with different memory as well?

yeap, it was the same with 2X256 Muskin BH5, in about the same mhz, since bh5 are a bit faster than the CH5 used on Twinmos modules. too much complaints here with this issue, even with tccd.

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